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    Quote Originally Posted by max111 View Post
    sky sports news did a feature on a kid who was deemed at 13 not big enough and dropped by the club can't remember the club

    but he had gone to train as a jockey

    i bet if Lionel Messi had been at stoke he would have heard the same crap from them
    Ian Wright - found playing non-league football at 24
    Rickie Lambert - beetroot factory, non-league, rattled around lower leagues etc.
    Luke Shaw - rejected by Arsenal, Chelsea, Fulham - taken on by Southampton

    and many, many, many more. It's embarrassing how some clubs select talent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billyboy View Post
    I've been assistant coach since April, so I know what I am in for. It is really fun, and the progress 5-6 yr olds make is amazing. I am also looking to do some qualifications if I can find enough time - having never really been coached myself I don't have much of a clue what I should be doing!
    They've restructured the system since I started with "Youth Team Manager" and then worked my way up. Basically it's Level 1, 2, 3 and then off into bigger, better stuff. There's also specialist coaching elements that are brilliant (goalkeeping etc.). You learn so much on every course and the little sponges that you coach will take so much of it on board, it's very, very rewarding. Word of advice, unless the club is going to fund your courses it's worth trying to do them through the forces - even civvies can do it - as they are about half the cost. They also some of the best coaches.

    I am fortunate enough to play 5-a-side with one of the most highly qualified coaches in the country - he runs the coaching courses right up to Pro licence level - and it's fascinating to learn from him and play football with him.
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    I agree with alot of your points about youth and training from 6 yrs ,how they play etc . As for the premiership i,ve had enough of watching over paid ,over rated , English players ? I,ve stopped my SKY sports subscription ,after the world cup im so disillusioned with English football im not going to give them money out of my pocket to keep the status quo going . If things change radically in English football i will start watching and going again ? but i wont hold my breath ? lol. Im thinking of watching Southend utd (local club) Division 3 . As i know alot of the reserve team that train at my gym ,mostly English lads ,seem ok ,So i will give them a watch . Nothing to loose .
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    And you've got Lee Barnard back again. Just keep him out of night clubs or bottles out of his hands when he's in there.

    Your point about ditching Sky is a valid moral stance but the problem isn't with Sky, it's with a fundamentally weak FA who refuse to stand up to the PL and demand the money from them that they should. The PL have just signed the biggest TV deal ever and yet have somehow REDUCED the contribution that they pay to the FA via the Football Foundation and other methods so the game at the elite level has got richer but at youth/local level has got poorer. It's a shambles.
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    Yer i agree the PL is a shambles . You cant really say that your team (whatever one you follow) as won the Champions league when you only have 1 or 2 English players in the side that lift the cup. I,ve looked at the winers of the CL and you have to go back to Aston Villa or Nottingham Forest to find a team with predominantly English players in the side . So have Liverpool /Man Utd or Chelsea Really won the CL or is it a team of overseas players winning it for them ? . Either way the National team will suffer long term . Not good .

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    Or you could ask the question, what is so important about sport at a National level, especially if it is a team sport? Is it really about one team v another or is it jingoism of the worst kind? Any national team consists of a selection of the supposed best players from that country but does that.........is it possible, for that to produce a cohesive team worth watching? It often takes more that a season to build a decent premiership side, so what chance bringing together a group of players for a few weeks at most..............most of whom are probably already crocked from a comprehensive league playing schedule. I enjoy many different sports but football at a national level is not one of them.

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    True mikerb, But , who cares who wins the premiership ? where as the world cup thats what counts ? Country first . As started if you have more than 6 English players playing together week in week out for the same club side ? this has to transfer across to the national side at some point ? surely ? . But hey Footballs only about money ? not what us fans think .

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