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23rd November 2010, 08:58 PM #1
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Windsurfing Out of 2016 Olympics???
Picked this up from the windsurfjournal site, which has carried the news from Sailing Anarchy page.
According to these sites the below text is from Paul Henderson, reporting back on Olympic sailing categories:
Paul Henderson was asked by the ISAF to give his thoughts on their Olympic decisions. We got 'em...
Olympic Events: (On request of the President) CONFIDENTIAL
Sailing will continue with 10 Events and 380 athletes for 2016.
Olympic Sailing should err on side of “Talent over Technology”.
Encourage inclusivity not exclusivity.
The vote on the Events takes place in November 2011.
The Equipment (Classes) are picked in 2012.
Format, Fleet or Match, to be done 3 years before but should be done also in 2012 with exceptions.
Experience with 2012 Women’s Match Racing will put this in place. Match is exclusive. Fleet inclusive.
(Council made error by deciding Women’s Match Racing in 2007 as that is Format.
Women's’ Keelboat is the Event.)
Men’s Singlehanded: Laser Standard
Women’s Singlehanded: Laser Radial
Open Doublehander: Skiff: 49er (no reason to change)
Men’s Heavyweight Singlehander: Olympics must not become a Junior small peoples event.
The Finn has served sailing well and should be retained until something better comes along.
Comments: There should be Keelboats because of facilities required for the Paralympics. Also it is where the best names in Sailing show up which is what the media likes. The media likes personalities more than they like equipment.
It has been done before that an event is held out of the Games for a period and then brought back. It has usually been done to change equipment as was done with the FD and Tornado. Windsurfing was originally brought in to show the cutting edge of our sport as distinct from the traditional aspects as shown above. Windsurfing 40 years ago was the new “Extreme Sailing”. For the next decade every other car going down the highway had one on their roof. Now it is in strong decline and should be dropped for 2016. 40 years was a good run. Skiing is a good example as they have replaced events with Snow Boarding disciplines. Speed skating has also met the challenge with Short Track.
Kite Boarding is the new “Extreme Sailing”
Must make the decision to drop the 470 and Windsurfing Men and Women.
Bring Cats Back: (Kinetics are minimized)
It was right to drop the Tornado as it had become very expensive and exclusive succumbing to technology.
Men’s Cat: (model to be a modern Hobie 16 with their same “Laser” mentality)
Kite Boarding: “Extreme Sailing”
Take a leap of faith and put Kite Boarding in for 2016 as we did with the 49er and Windsurfing so many years ago. Format does not need to be decided till 2013. ISAF will have two year to massage the format to have a sensible equipment and competition.
Men’s Kite Boarding
Women’s Kite Boarding
“Fools go in where Angels fear to tread”
Right hand side in English
Doesn't sound like it's a done deal yet, but doesn't look too good.
23rd November 2010, 09:06 PM #2
23rd November 2010, 09:39 PM #3
How much of a loss is it?
How many Olympic Gold Medals do Naish and Dunkerbeck have?
The Olympic windsurfing always seemed a competition disconnected to what the majority of windsurfers do, ie it required specialist boards (Div 1, etc), and was always held in conditions that tended to result in a pumping competition.
Dinghy sailors sail to race; the majority of windsurfers sail for the love of sailing; and the pros compete in specialist (relative to the Olympics) disciplines.
I'm not dissing the Olympics, but is it surprising that the role of windsurfing in the Games is being questioned?
23rd November 2010, 10:03 PM #4
5 years ago with racing pretty much out of vogue, I would have tended to agree - no real loss.
But given the renaissance of racing and the associated related benefits of a more inclusive club scene more, the loss of Windsurfing as an Olympic sport does not seem be a good thing in my opinion and might send things back in the opposite direction again.Post NWF blues....
23rd November 2010, 10:04 PM #5
I know what you are saying Neil, but one impact it would have would be a diversion of funding away from initiatives such as team 15
it would then encourage more kids to go kite surfing perhaps
I'm unsure if kite surfing as Olympic sport is good or bad for the sport itself.
It may give more leverage to increase access to more areas to practice kiting, and by default windsurf access too.
Sounds like resistance to follow a more exciting windsurf format than the longboard course racing and doing something like slalom or superX in decent winds. Venues / timetables rarely suited proper windsurfing tho.
I'm not sure how exactly dropping windsurfing would affect the sport in general, but given it's one of the few sports we can pick up medals we should all hope that some dinghy class gets dropped instead !!!Playing for fun
23rd November 2010, 10:29 PM #6
I raised the points for debate and reading the initial post it seems the questionmark regarding windsurfing was that it was once "extreme sailing" and now that definition is addressed by kiting. And i'm not sure how they will address that in the olympics. Kiteboard racing? Again something that I dont think the average kitesurfer goes in for. They could score them on high, floaty, twisty-turny jumps, but then you can do that for wake boarding.
And in light winds? At least you can pump a windsurfer.
It's a shame that they have picked on windsurfing for omission. Why the need for all the dinghy classes? I can say from my position of ignorance that if you can sit on your arse and sail one dinghy, then you could sail all of 'em.
23rd November 2010, 10:30 PM #7
There has been quite a discussion on this on various sites – or as much as you'd expect I guess, on what sadly is not a mass interest or populist topic amongst those who talk about windsurfing online.
Can't remember all the places where I've seen stuff but try Boardseeker for example.
I'm guessing there is a lot more discussion about this amongst the RS:X sailors and at the RYA.This space is kept clear for random notes, reminders, or a shopping list.